RE: MD Any help

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Fri Oct 21 2005 - 16:38:18 BST

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    > [Platt]
    > The phrase "stunningly well" makes it clear that Pirsig has no political
    > agenda, like universal health care, in mind.
    >
    > [Arlo]
    > I don't think Universal Health Care is a "political agenda", I think it is
    > a moral virtue of the social level.

    Get a clue, Arlo. All government programs are "political" because
    politicians create them and government bureaucrats run them.

    >Yep, social level patterns have worked
    > "stunningly well" in providing the means for many people to overcome the
    > chains of biological necessity. But not all. There are still many who are
    > chained by biological necessity, here and abroad, and it is to social-level
    > patterns we turn for the morality to find a solution to this.

    So now it's Universal Health Care for the entire world? Well folks, there
    go your taxes, ever higher and higher to "care for" everybody on the
    planet. There's no end to the "needy" that liberals depend on to gain
    power over your pocketbook and your life.

    > What's sad is that despite the "stunningly well" success social patterns of
    > morality have had in alleviating the prison of biologic necessity,
    > modern-day "intellectual conservatives" want to dismantle these social
    > patterns, to let it up to so-called "individuals" to find a means to break
    > the chains of their own biological necessity. A reversion to
    > biological-level morality if there ever was one.

    Nonsense. The social pattern that has done "stunningly well" is free
    enterprise capitalism that intellectual conservatives fully support. Your
    style of social pattern -- you guessed it -- is just the opposite where
    everybody, instead of working for his own ends, works for the ends of
    others you deem more deserving.

    Platt

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