Re: MD Chaos and its role in Evolution

From: Rebecca Temmer (ratemmer.lists@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Nov 30 2005 - 18:12:05 GMT

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    David,

    I'd say the only thing that doesn't have quality is nothing.
    Isn't chaos something...?
    Chaos, IMO, is low quality stuff...

    Stuff happens... then other stuff happens... and other stuff... and then the
    chicken crosses the road :)

    Rebecca

    On 11/29/05, David M <davidint@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    >
    > Hi Case
    >
    > I disagree, if there was not any movement
    > directed towards quality we would live in chaos
    > and not a universe.
    >
    > Regards
    > DM
    >
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Case" <Case@ispots.com>
    > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:31 PM
    > Subject: RE: MD Chaos and its role in Evolution
    >
    >
    > > [DM]
    > > It looked like you did not get my point but then you got better....
    > >
    > > My point of course is that prior to selection or order there has to be
    > an
    > > underlying infinity and that this assumption is ignored in all SQ
    > seeking
    > > theories. Or in other words DQ prior to SQ as you say. I quite like the
    > > idea
    > > that DQ
    > > (infinity) has to withdraw to allow SQ (finity) to exist.
    > >
    > > [Case]
    > > Well, actually I would say that Quality is the underlying infinite and
    > > that
    > > DQ and SQ emerge as the interplay of order and chaos. I think calling
    > the
    > > "concept of change" SQ leads nowhere and means nothing.
    > >
    > > [DM to Platt:]
    > > A valid point I think, therefore we live in a universe that has been
    > > taking
    > > a specific rather than a random walk into the possible, seeking quality.
    > >
    > > [Case]
    > > The walk appears specific because it has been taken. Retracing the step
    > > leads down a twisting trail of colliding circumstances and collapsing
    > > probabilities.
    > >
    > >
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