Re: MD Squonk wrote a Review

From: SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com
Date: Sat Mar 22 2003 - 02:05:57 GMT

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    Squonk,

    Would you mind unpacking your remark "Causation is redundant in the MoQ" for
    me? I'm still trying to distinguish MOQ and SOM thinking.

    Thanks,
    Steve

    Hi Steve,
    The term, 'unpacking' belongs to a world of logical analysis? That's the
    usual forum in which i hear it anyway. Not sure if i can do as you ask, but
    will try...

    All static patterns in the MoQ express preferences in response to DQ. We may
    therefore wish to say that static patterns evolve according to value stimulus
    rather than a causal chain which may then require termination in a first
    cause.
    An example we may wish to consider is the artist painting: Where does the
    artist place the brush? The brush is placed in a moment of Dynamic experience
    which generates a static pattern. We must remember that the painting and the
    painter, when viewed as patterns of value, are not disconnected in the moment
    of experience; an artist is a collection of evolutionary related patterns of
    Inorganic, Biological, Social and Intellectual patterns - patterns which
    include the artistic materials of the work in hand.

    A SoM perspective delineates between subjective experience and objective
    facts - and we may assume there to be a causal relationship between the two?
    Where does the artist place the brush here? One would generate a model with
    causal links iterating feedback of some description; bring in psychoanalysis,
    mental states, biology, socially acquired biases, physics, quantum physics,
    history, and who knows what? And all this is causally connected in some sense
    that conforms to logical analysis? Or not as the case may be? That's quite
    some unpacking job!

    Hope this helps?
    Hope you can help me too,
    squonk

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