Re: MD Philosophy and Theology

From: Valence (valence10@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Apr 03 2003 - 16:45:41 BST

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    Hey Platt,
    Just a quick one before I run out for an early lunch...

    > RICK:
    > > Agreed. There is no "final truth".

    PLATT
    > Is that your and Pirsig's final truth?

    RICK
        No. It's not a 'final truth'. It's an observation. One which you
    could easily refute by citing just one 'final truth' which we'd all agree
    with.
        But more to the point, in the MoQ 'truth' is based on the properties of
    intellectual patterns (ie. their logical consistency, agreement with
    experience and economy of explanation). What could 'final truth' even mean
    in this context? Is it really coherent to say some given assertion is the
    'final logical consistency', the 'final agreement with experience' or the
    'final economical explanation'? It sounds like nonsense to me. However, it
    is coherent to think of an assertion as the 'most logically consistent', the
    'most in agreement with experience' or the 'most economical in explanation'.
    The catch is that when you change from 'final' to 'most' you have to leave
    room for the possibility of your explanation eventually being trumped by one
    in which those qualities are even stronger.

    > > SAM
    > > When it comes to questions of
    > > > metaphysics - which determine how all the 'objectively' produced data
    are
    > > > interpreted - we are plunged straight back into questions of decision,
    > > which
    > > > (as a matter of logical and empirical fact) depend upon emotional
    > > engagement
    > > > with the issue at hand.

    PLATT
    > Right on. The principle of objectivity is not itself an objective,
    observable
    > fact.

    RICK
    Oh. Is that what you think he meant? I'd agree with that.

    take care
    rick

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