Re: MD What is a fact?

From: Wim Nusselder (wim.nusselder@antenna.nl)
Date: Sat Apr 05 2003 - 21:23:24 BST

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    Dear David B.,

    You argue 5 Apr 2003 12:07:48 -0700 that biological, social and intellectual
    values co-exist in individuals, societies, nations, cultures etc. and that
    this doesn't pose a problem for distinguishing these levels of values.

    I agree that values of individuals, societies, nations, cultures etc. when
    properly categorized in levels can be mixed without blurring these levels. I
    don't think it is these kinds of values (values OF things) we should deal
    with in this discussing group. We should deal with PATTERNS of value and
    categorize these patterns. The patterns that hold together species,
    ecosystems etc. are biological patterns of value, the patterns that hold
    together societies, nations and (material) cultures (in the sense of skills
    acquired by practice) etc. are social patterns of value and the patterns
    that hold together individuals (personalities, unique characters), systems
    of ideas, (teachable) cultures (in the sense of the world of symbols and
    their meanings) etc. are intellectual patterns of value. The 'value' implied
    in these patterns (the value OF these patterns) is their stability and
    versatility. Other 'values of ...' are creatures of Subject-Object Thinking.

    With friendly greetings,

    Wim

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