From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Apr 29 2003 - 19:51:45 BST
Hi Matt,
Thanks for keeping up with this thread. I had typed a response to this
earlier, but my email went down and I lost it.
It was Platt who told me I was a post-modernist, but maybe it doesn't fit
me. I don't like the sound of moral rule of thumb, I don't really
understand - is that just a weaker version of a principle? I think I was
lumped in to post modernism because I see morality as being the static
patterns (including the debris) of a culture, and therefore malleable, and
not, as Platt believes, an absolute. But I do believe that people
absolutley should do what their culture's morality says they should do, we
should take morality's expectations and make the effort to realize them as
though they were absolutes.
Johnny
>From: Matt the Enraged Endorphin <mpkundert@students.wisc.edu>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>Subject: Re: MD Undeniable Facts
>Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:33:43 -0500
>
>Johnny,
>
>Johnny said:
>Post Modernists ought to convince us that we need to shore up our culture
>and get together for morality's sake, get people to respect morality more
>so that we are more on the same page about truth and right. I think that
>if morality is stronger, people are more inclined to believe in absolutes.
>When people are inclined to thumb their noses at morality, all absolutes
>get nose-thumbed too.
>
>Matt:
>You've been talking a lot lately about morality and protecting morality and
>I'd like to add my post-modernist thoughts because I don't think many
>post-modernists want to "get together for morality's sake." Rorty and
>Fish's point (to name two) is that reflecting on morality isn't going to
>make us more moral. The pragmatist doesn't want to discuss morality itself
>because she thinks it leads to dead-end philosophical problems, not
>improved moral thinking. Post-modernists don't want to discuss Morality
>for the same reason they do not want to discuss Truth: they don't think the
>first will do anything for us being moral, just as the second won't do
>anything for us being truthful. Post-modernists simply want to play
>Locke's role of philosophical underlaborer, clearing the ground of
>conceptual debris. But we don't think that this will help us make moral
>decisions, other than letting us bypass arguments about the nature of
>morality. We are simply redescribing moral "principles" into moral "rules
>of thumb."
>
>Matt
>
>
>
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