RE: MD Philosophy and Theology

From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Sat May 03 2003 - 03:14:40 BST

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    Sam, Steve and all:

    Sam asked:
    1. Is that a representative Wilber extract, in your opinion?

    dmb says:
    I guess so. There was nothing particularly unusual about it.

    Sam asked:
    2. Did you expect me to agree with it?

    dmb says:
    No. I only hoped you'd think about it and respond to it.

    Sam asked:
    3. What would you say was the key contribution that that extract made to our
    discussion? (ie what was the 'clarity' that you thought it offered?)

    dmb says:
    Mostly, like Steve's Friday post, it is a detailed explanation of why I
    disagree with assertions like this....

    Sam had said:
    I (i) don't think it's possible to think without an underlying mythology
    (meta-narrative, final vocabulary, whatever) (ii) think that science
    operates within a mythology which is largely unacknowledged (iii) think that
    the Christian mythology, for all its faults, is superior to the scientific
    one (more precisely, it is superior to Modernism).

    Likewise, Sam had said:
    I agree that we shouldn't single out science or scientists - but that is in
    fact my point. I am objecting to the (Modernist/SOM) claim that science is
    cognitively superior to mythology. That claim lacks self-awareness about the
    mythology within which science itself is embedded.

    dmb continues:
    I also thought it was exciting to see what a 4th level spirituality might
    look like, what the future of religion might look like. I thought Wilber's
    explanation sheds light on the issues we've been dealing with because he
    focuses on them in some detail and he makes many of the same kinds of
    distinctions that Pirsig does. You really don't that? Hmmm.

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