Re: MD Awareness and intuition.

From: Joe (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed May 07 2003 - 21:33:00 BST

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    On 6 May 2003 11:48 AM Phyllis writes:

     Hi Joe and Sam:
    Look's like I'm self-appointed logical fallacy police, so I'd better watch
    my straw men. To say all of reality is quality is not to say that all of
    quality is reality, sorry I can't do a Venn diagram via email.

    Hi Phyllis:

    Thanks for joining the discussion! I must confess I felt a chill down my
    spine when I read the words "logical fallacy police." Maybe I confused them
    with 'logical fallic police.'

    I have not the slightest idea of what a Venn diagram is and not enough trust
    in my computers skills to find out. I learned Aristotlean logic 45 years
    ago, so I probably confused the 'distributed middle.'

    My contribution to the conversation was that I know quality only in patterns
    to which words are attached. I thought Sam said that we know reality only
    in patterns to which words are attached. Two things equal to a same middle
    term are equal to each other. To test the relation to the middle term
    substitute the order.

    SOM makes a distinction in 'existence' to create subjective and objective
    words (if we wish to talk to each other.) Does Pirsig fall into a similar
    trap by making a distinction in 'quality'? Do we have 'subjective' quality
    dq (indefianble), and 'objective' quality sq (definable static-latched dq)?

    My impression is that Matt E would say: "Yes he does, so forget it." Platt,
    on the other hand divides 'indefinable phenomenon' into at least 10, so a
    division doesn't matter. I say, from my vast readings from other authors on
    the subject, make a division of indefinable quality (dq) into three: 'I
    learn', 'I act,' 'I am.' I assign a brain to each one to sort them out as
    aspects of the sq pattern in a DNA generated 'awareness' pattern using
    'intuition' or an 'instinctive sense of reality.'

    Joe

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