Re: MD Free Will

From: August West (augustwestd@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Jun 06 2003 - 21:26:45 BST

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    scott
    you wrote:

    > The error is to think that there is some
    > "thing" called "me" that "has"
    > choices. The choices exist in their own right.

    It's an error to think that there is some "thing
    called "me"? I get the last part, the universe;
    reality would be static with out choices. Why doesn't
    your statement undo its self? I mean .. YOU said the
    above quote. Wouldn't that mean that you exist?

    What I'm asking is, didn't YOU CHOSE those words?

    -August

    --- Scott R <jse885@spinn.net> wrote:
    > Steve et al,
    >
    > As you say:
    >
    > > Free Will seems to be one of those SOM
    > Platypi--the sort of issue that
    > gets
    > > resolved in the MOQ.
    > >
    > > The issue is whether the cause of human behavior
    > lies in the human subject
    > > or in external objective reality. But if subjects
    > and objects are
    > > deductions from Quality, then neither free will of
    > the subject nor
    > > determinism by objective reality represents the
    > cause of human behavior.
    > >
    > > It seems that the question, "do we have free will"
    > needs to be unasked
    > > within the MOQ context. Or at least reworked.
    >
    > I suggest replacing the phrase "free will" with
    > "creativity". And only
    > Quality is creative. We are just local passageways
    > for creativity to be
    > creative. We make a mistake by trying to own it,
    > which leads us to wonder
    > how much "freedom" we have. One can just as well say
    > we have none or we have
    > all. The error is to think that there is some
    > "thing" called "me" that "has"
    > choices. The choices exist in their own right.
    >
    > - Scott
    >
    >
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