From: Paul Turner (pauljturner@yahoo.co.uk)
Date: Sun Jun 08 2003 - 21:43:11 BST
Hi Squonk
> Hi Paul,
> Applying DQ/SQ tension to social patterns, do you
> feel it is appropriate to
> suggest:
> Institution = static social pattern - Celebrity =
> Dynamic social pattern.
Yes, I think celebrity in politics is clear to see.
The social sense of value evoked in voting is directed
to some degree by celebrity. The political media is a
social pattern of value that supports celebrity.
I think politicians have to straddle the social and
intellectual level carefully to be successful.
Celebrity is clearly important at the social level; a
charismatic leader carries the party along with it.
The party policies are at the intellectual level and a
leader has to bring about coherence amongst different
intellectual patterns held by the party members.
> Thus, a combination of the static component with a
> Dynamic component produces
> a DQ/SQ tension that has the possibility of
> coherence?
I think good political parties have that tension
within them. The tension between members who hold to
traditional ideology and those with more radical ideas
is essential to keep the social pattern of value (the
party) evolving. When the tension is just right, the
whole party may be transformed for the better. The
success (albeit temporary?) of the New Labour party in
the nineties may be an example of that?
> For example, one may envisage a Government (Static
> social pattern) with a
> Celebrity at its head - King/Queen, president, PM
> (Dynamic social pattern.) The
> relationship between the two may produce a well
> balanced social pattern?
Interesting choices, I recall Pirsig describing the
King or constitution as a static pattern and
parliament as the Dynamic eraser.
In British government, you could argue there is a
static house of lords and a Dynamic house of commons.
I find the DQ-SQ tension concept a great way to put
the MOQ to use in thinking about almost anything.
These are just some initial ideas on government, I'll
give it some more thought.
cheers
Paul
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