Re: RE: MD MOQ human development and the levels

From: Elizaphanian (elizaphanian@tiscali.co.uk)
Date: Tue Jun 10 2003 - 14:48:02 BST

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    Hi Paul,

    Just as an exercise, I thought I'd try and classify the things you mentioned.

    > - Democracy

    As an idea or as a political system? The former is a high quality intellectual static latch; the
    latter is a social pattern of values that has been modified by input from a higher level.

    > - The British government

    As such, a social pattern of value. It contains many high quality intellectual patterns within it.

    > - A fascist government

    A social pattern of value which seeks to inhibit particular intellectual patterns.

    > - science

    Science is an idea, ie a stable pattern of intellectual value. Scientific method is in origin a
    pattern of organising intellectual activity with certain goals. Scientists may or may not act at the
    intellectual level (I don't think Kuhnian 'normal' science is particularly fourth level).

    > - The President of the U.S.

    A static latch for preserving particular social patterns.

    > - University

    A social organisation seeking to foster intellectual values.

    > - Physics

    An intellectual pattern of value.

    > - A physics professor

    A social pattern of value primarily (may or may not be intellectual, dependent on the professor). I
    see this as analogous to the POTUS example.

    > - Law

    An intellectual pattern of value, oriented towards the social level.

    > - Law Courts

    A social static latch.

    ~~~

    Now some for you:
    - An anonymous person completing a marathon once in their life
    - The play 'A Streetcar named Desire' by Tennessee Williams
    - Warhol's Campbell's Soup
    - the English language
    - the process of excretion in a normal adult human being (or: shaving)
    - [if you've seen the film] Andie McDowell's decision to sleep with James Spader at the end of 'Sex,
    Lies and Videotape'

    Cheers

    Sam

    "Phaedrus is fascinated too by the description of the motive of 'duty toward self' which is an
    almost exact translation of the Sanskrit word 'dharma', sometimes described as the 'one' of the
    Hindus. Can the 'dharma' of the Hindus and the 'virtue' of the Ancient Greeks be identical?" - The
    Eudaimonic MoQ says yes. "Lightning hits!"

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