Re: MD The Transformation of Love

From: Joe (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue Jun 17 2003 - 19:14:58 BST

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    On16 June 2003 12:30 PM Johnny writes:

    Johnny:
    Here is one of my favorite poems, please tell me what you think about it:

    XIV. If thou must love me, let it be for nought - Elizabeth Barrett
    Browning

    If thou must love me, let it be for nought
    Except for love's sake only. Do not say
    "I love her for her smile---her look---her way
    Of speaking gently,---for a trick of thought
    That falls in well with mine, and certes brought
    A sense of pleasant ease on such a day"---
    For these things in themselves, Belovèd, may
    Be changed, or change for thee,---and love, so wrought, May be unwrought so.
    Neither love me for
    Thine own dear pity's wiping my cheeks dry,---
    A creature might forget to weep, who bore
    Thy comfort long, and lose thy love thereby!
    But love me for love's sake, that evermore
    Thou mayst love on, through love's eternity.

    I nominate this poem for the "everything I'm trying to say about morality"
    award :-)

    Hi Johnny, Sam, Rick, and all (even me),

    joe: I focus on the 'nought except' in the poem! Love is indefinable,
    dynamic. How am I touched by Love? The four forces, gravity, weak nuclear,
    strong nuclear, and electomagnetic do not seem to explain the 'touch' of
    love, yet I experience it. Instruments can measure my response to love, but
    they cannot measure the 'touch'. An instinctive sensing of reality,
    intuition of dynamic quality, seems to be an answer. Is it nonsense? Love,
    morality, seem to be based on undefinable dynamic quality.

    Oh Hell! Now I have to go outside physics to explain love! So something
    comes to me from thee, and I cannot measure it. I revel in the experience,
    I go ape! based on the indefinable. So be it. I add 'emanation' to an
    instinctive brain to the four forces, and I am at peace.

    Joe

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