From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Fri Jun 27 2003 - 22:06:02 BST
Hi Johnny,
Platt
> "It bothers me, however, that you categorize persons as
> mere social patterns, the realm where the Giant rules. We know what the
> Giant does to persons; he has them for lunch. Better to think of persons as
> individuals possessing intellect that can improve life by responding to DQ.
> That way persons are less likely to end up as fodder for the Giant's ugly
> ambitions. It was the guarantee of individual rights as protection against
> the appetite of the Giant that made the USA unique and helped draw powerful
> intellects from all over the world to its shores, yearning to be free."
Johnny
> I would say the social level is the realm THAT the Giant rules.
Agree.
> Well,
> it rules at the intellectual level too, manipulating intellectual ideas
> to foster its growth, but it mainly rules by means of intellectual
> ideas.
I'm not sure about this. Can you give some examples of just how the Giant
uses intellect to rule? The only clearly intellectual attempt to control
society that I know of was Communism (and early New Dealism). Both were
utter failures.
> I don't see how you can say that the USA has more protection
> against the Giant when clearly, the Giant thrives in the USA's free
> intellectual patterns. New York City is where the Giant was loudest,
> right?
No. The Giant is loud in all large cities and in every nation. Where it's
loudest is in countries where individual rights are unheard of.
> Perhaps because people in the USA (and other technologically
> servient nations) seem to be the ones controlling the Giant most, as
> opposed to merely reacting to it, you think they are protected from its
> appitites.
No. In the USA individuals are protected from the Giant's appetites by a
Constitution that guarantees certain inalienable rights to individuals--
life, liberty, property.
> But getting rich off of it doesn't mean you aren't a slave
> to it, or you aren't manipulated by it.
That's the socialist idea that capitalism makes everyone a slave to the
marketplace, a bogus notion if there ever was one.
Platt
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