From: Sam Norton (elizaphanian@tiscali.co.uk)
Date: Tue Jul 01 2003 - 07:13:59 BST
Hi Bo (and welcome back)
> What's on my mind is (as always) the intellectual level. It seems like the
> discussion has always circled around it, The one remaining "aborigine" (Hi
> Platt) will remember how early it turned up in our discussion, and the
> "middle-aged" will also remember how often it has been the topic, and
> everybody will agree that we haven't reached a conclusion.
I think it one of the arguments against the 'standard' account that there is no consensus, even an
approximate one, about the fourth level of the MoQ, after so much discussion. However, I wanted to
throw a question at you relating your SOLAQI hypothesis and my eudaimonic one.
If 'thinking' (of any sort) is no longer seen as the defining attribute of the fourth level, but the
'autonomous individual' is instead, then would you agree that, once that new 'choosing unit/static
latch' is in place, the possibility for SOL is opened up, ie that's where there is a possibility of
me/not me? I think I would see subject/object thinking as an early phase within level 4, ie the
fruits of autonomy within one particular area, the intellectual one, from which the MoQ itself is an
improvement. So it is a different type of thinking, which can only operate at the higher level,
rather than being the essential attribute of that higher level itself.
What do you think?
Sam
"Phaedrus is fascinated too by the description of the motive of 'duty toward self' which is an
almost exact translation of the Sanskrit word 'dharma', sometimes described as the 'one' of the
Hindus. Can the 'dharma' of the Hindus and the 'virtue' of the Ancient Greeks be identical?" - The
Eudaimonic MoQ says yes. "Lightning hits!"
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