From: Steve Peterson (peterson.steve@verizon.net)
Date: Sat Jul 05 2003 - 19:00:13 BST
Bo:
> Of course: A metaphysics (theory of everything) crystallize all of existence
> in
> its mold, but if the Quality Idea is seen as an all-intellectual pattern we
> are
> faced with the paradox of a part containing the whole.
Steve:
A theory of everything can never be expected to literally contain everything
but only to be description of everything. A theory of everything should
then be a theory that can describe theories. I don't see a paradox. The
MOQ says that the MOQ is an intellectual pattern of value.
Bo:
> Heck even DQ
> becomes a static intellectual pattern!
Steve:
Exactly. But its value lies in that it is a metaphor that points to what
is not static.
Bo:
> Btw. Pirsig
> says that a "set of ideas" is socially approved. Even ideas are treated at the
> social level.
Steve:
Can you explain what you mean by "treated at the social level"? Do you mean
that inter-subjective agreement is important to the stability of
intellectual patterns of value? I would agree. How could we recognize a
pattern if it is not repeated and shared?
That doesn't make ideas social patterns of value, however. Social values
are recognized as thoughtless mimetic behaviors that are required for the
evolution of society but are no longer to be equated with society itself
since modern societies are comprised of individuals who participate in
intellectual patterns of value as well as inorganic, biological, and social
ones.
Thanks,
Steve
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