From: Valence (valence10@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Jul 07 2003 - 19:52:25 BST
Hi Johnny and all,
> J:
> But social patterns aren't "invented" like that - I see "invented" social
> patterns as being iintellectual patterns trying to control society. I
think
> as soon as there were two humans, there were social patterns that describe
> the way the two humans interact. If they kept to opposite sides of the
lake
> and always ran away from each other, then that was the social pattern.
> Patterns describe existing behavior and things, habits and ttendencies.
R
That would mean that there was never a point in history when there existed
humans without social patterns (and it would make it more difficult to
explain why Pirsig thinks only humans pattern socially). Moreover, I would
think that social "patterning" would require multiple humans behaving in
accordance with some "pattern". But I'll think about it some more and get
back to you.
J
The
> human consciousness is neither biological, inorganic, social, or
> intellectual, but is probably that undifferentiated quality.
R
Agreed.
take care
rick
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