From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Jul 14 2003 - 18:43:25 BST
> > Any takers?
>
>After talking about why it is unnecessary and futile to define intellectual
>patterns of Quality, I will do just that. Why? Because I value doing that.
>:)
>
>I cannot give a 'dictionary definiton' of intellectual patterns because I
>don't think of it in that form. I consider intellectual patterns to the be
>the patterns of Quality that include reason, logic, rationality,
>irrationality,... basically anything that involves thought. If needed, I
>can provide examples and arguments to back up my understanding. But I think
>it is straightforward and should not come as a surprise.
>
>What do you (the reader) think about this pseudo-definition?
>
>- Pi
Hi Pi,
One interesting thing about those words (reason, logic, rationality) is that
there is a social component to them, they are used mainly to argue with
other people, to convince or explain. Something is reasonable if there is
an intersubjective agreement that it is reasonable. Thoughts that we have
in our head when we are choosing what car to buy, say, are sort of silent
arguments with make-believe adversaries, so that we are ready to explain why
we chose what we did should anyone ask. If we just chose the car that
seemed like the car we should choose because that was the car that most
people chose (or celebrities chose, celebrities are celebrated as social
pattern propogators), that would be following the social pattern. Thinking
about what car to buy becomes intellectual when it becomes an argument with
other people about what car is best, what would be the best car for society.
I know we think we are getting the best car for ourselves only, but we are
really having a little rational argument with people about society's best
interest when we do it.
Pi, what do you think of my stressing the "intellectual patterns operate on
social patterns" angle? Of the novel/computer heirarchy? Was that the
'huh?' that was mystifying you?
Johnny
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