From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Aug 10 2003 - 07:54:51 BST
Hi Platt:
>As Pirsig put it: "In the MOQ Quality comes first which produces ideas
>which produce what
>we know has matter."
So, how much time elapses between these stages? How much control do the
ideas have over how they produce the matter, or do they channel the quality
fully and directly into matter without having any control over it? Couldn't
it be said that Quality produces ideas and matter simultaneously? I mean,
the process couldn't stop at producing the idea of matter without the matter
being produced, and the idea can't be suppressed once quality has produced
it, right? So how could there even be any delay in the creation of the
matter after the idea is produced? So if they are produced simultaneously,
there can be no chain like that - from Q to Idea to Matter - it would have
to be more like a pyramid, from Q to both ideas and matter, right?
This isn't to say that the ideas don't produce the matter, as the matter
could not be produced without the idea. So it is the idea, not the Quality,
that actualizes the Quality into matter.
Do you think getting rid of the chain concept might be useful to
understanding? How crucial is the chain to you?
Johnny
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