RE: MD myths and symbols

From: Paul Turner (paulj.turner@ntlworld.com)
Date: Tue Aug 12 2003 - 17:36:57 BST

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    Hi Platt

    It's on p526 of my copy of LC in a paragraph that starts "In the late
    1800's...". It is part of the dialogue that begins with Pirsig's
    response to Dan's question about Note 97. He is talking about whether
    inorganic nature or ideas come first, but the important bit for me is
    the "social approval of ideas" and creation of "common sense" which
    clarifies the MOQ understanding of culture for me.

    Paul

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    Subject: RE: MD myths and symbols

    Hi Paul,

    > This quote below is extremely
    > important to understand the relationship between society and
    intellect:
    >
    > "It is important for an understanding of the MOQ to see that although
    > 'common sense' dictates that inorganic nature came first, actually
    > 'common sense' which is A SET OF IDEAS, has to come first. This
    'common
    > sense' is arrived at through a web of SOCIALLY APPROVED EVALUATIONS of
    > various alternatives. The key term here is 'evaluation', i.e. quality
    > decisions. The fundamental reality is not the common sense or the
    > objects and laws approved of by common sense but the approval itself
    and
    > the quality that leads to it." Lila's Child Note 97
     
    Love the quote. It's vital. But, it's not Note 97 in my copy of Lila's
    Child. Note 97 in mine reads:

    "Within the MOQ, the idea that static patterns of value start with the
    inorganic level is considered to be a good idea. But the MOQ itself
    doesn't start before sentience. The MOQ, like science, starts with
    human experience. Remember the early talk in ZMM about Newton's Law of
    Gravity? Scientific laws without people to write them are a scientific
    impossibility."

    To compound the problem, I can't find your quote in any of the LC
    annotations. Can you help straighten out the source?

    Thanks,
    Platt

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