RE: MD Rorty and Darwin

From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Sun Aug 17 2003 - 02:55:30 BST

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    Andy said:
    I honestly cannot tell sometimes if you are really serious, obstinant,
    humorous, or just plain silly. I have not had much traditional philosophy
    education and I obviously have less than you, but come on. You are not
    familair with Putnam' "Gods eye view?" The basic arguments in epistemology?
    Sorry to give you the brush off here, but I can't believe you have no idea
    about such arguments. The tribunal is the idea that we can know with
    certainty what is Truth. That it can be determined. Or if it can't be
    determined, at least we can know that there is a "God's eye view" that does
    know what Truth is. The majority of all western philosophy asserts there is
    such a tribunal. And Rorty is asserting this is not true. As simple as that.
    The tribunal is a metaphor Rorty employs for Philosophy in general and
    epistemology specifically.

    dmb says:
    Believe it. I'm not kidding. If the majority of western philosophers assert
    this truth tribunal then examples shouldn't be hard to find. So why is it
    that I have yet to see one? I really wish somebody would stop this loooong
    exercise in evasion and just answer the damn question. (No offense to you,
    Andy. But I've been asking this same question, in different ways, for months
    now and so far I got nada. Zip. Zero. Zilch.) I understand that Rorty is
    saying its not true. What I want is an example of somebody making the case
    THAT IT IS TRUE. Show me Rorty's enemy. So far, this enemy is a ghost that
    disappears the moment you look at it. It like Rorty keeps telling me what
    the answer is, but I don't know what the question was. As a result, it all
    seems quite meaningless.

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