RE: MD Rorty (and Darwinism)

From: Ian Glendinning (ian@psybertron.org)
Date: Sun Aug 17 2003 - 20:09:16 BST

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    Wow, Scott, I certainly was using "Darwinism" as shorthand for evolution -
    though I guess I meant neo-Darwinism (as I understand it) of the Dawkins /
    Pinker variety, (though in fact I'm no fan of Dawkins outlook on life in
    general- as any readers of my own stuff will know.)

    I'm shocked at the suggestion that MoQ would reject Darwinian evolution.
    The key aspect I see fitting well with MoQ is "fitness". Clearly the
    "random" genetic mutation aspect can only apply to biological evolution,
    (including the brain and mental, social, intellectual aspects), but not all
    layers of the MoQ. However all the processes I see at work seem pretty
    analogous to neo-Darwinism to me.

    Could you suggest an example reason against this ?

    Ian

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
    [mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]On Behalf Of Scott R
    Sent: 17 August 2003 04:35
    To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    Subject: Re: MD Rorty

    Ian,

    > Steve
    > I believe evolution is the best model of any kind of reality.
    > MOQ layers are a good summary of just such a reality IMHO - stable layers
    > building dynamically on layers over many generations.
    > I see no conflict or paradox between MOQ and Darwin.
    > Ian Glendinning

    You seem to be equating "Darwinism" with "evolution". Darwinism is evolution
    by chance and natural selection. I reject that (and I think the MOQ does
    too). Quality is not chance.

    - Scott

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