From: Scott R (jse885@spinn.net)
Date: Fri Aug 22 2003 - 18:30:12 BST
Squonk,
squonk said:,
This may be because you both feel there is nothing outside language.
What is outside language?
In my possibly crackpot view, only Quality is outside language. Every thing is a word, but Quality is not a thing. I agree with Peirce that the sign is a triadic structure (physical sign, the sign's referent, and the interpretant, or ability to move through the physical sign to the referent) which is not reducible to dyadic structures. Since signs exist, and they are not reducible, the only way to avoid dualism is to assume dyadic structures don't exist. So a rock is a sign for which interpretant motion does not happen . As a result, I see it as an object. One might associate DQ with the interpretant and SQ with the systems (syntax) of signs, but then again one might not.
This is, of course, not what Derrida was saying in saying "there is nothing outside the text", but Derrida was not intending anything ontological by that, while I am. But since I am suspicious of ontology, I would not be surprised if further work turned this theory inside out.
- Scott
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