RE: MD Forked tongue

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Thu Aug 28 2003 - 20:44:33 BST

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    Hi Ian,

    > Platt you said,
    > ... the obvious contradiction that the universe has no purpose.
    > ... a scientist can't get out of bed in the morning without
    > a purpose.
    >
    > My view is there is no evidence the world needs any transcendental
    > purpose to be the way we understand it. There is no contracdiction
    > between this view and the fact that most humans thrive on s sense of
    > purpose, derived from their place in the world as they understand it and
    > their view of how they can influence it (for better or worse).

    You seem to making the subject/object distinction between humans and the
    rest of world, as if humans were somehow looking down at a world completely
    apart for them rather than the MOQ view that humans experience values that
    create the static patterns we call the "world."

    > Betterness is a value judgement we can make when we have someting like
    > the MoQ to make sense of things. But even every cloud has a silver
    > lining - that's human nature.

    In the MOQ, betterness is a value judgment that is immediately
    apprehended by direct experience prior to "making sense." Recognition
    of Quality is pre-intellectual.

    Purpose is inherent in the MOQ explanation of evolution as movement
    toward Dynamic Quality.

    I cannot help but wonder what is the purpose in denying that the world
    has no purpose? Seems to me the purpose is to maintain the
    subject/object division at all costs. Admittedly, it's hard to let go
    of the basis on which Western intellect thrives.

    Platt

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