Re: MD Dealing with S/O pt 1

From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Thu Sep 04 2003 - 21:36:39 BST

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    Hi

    A number of scholars are starting to unpick the eastern
    stuff that Heidegger used, he is very popular in far
    east universities apparently, & if you fancy reading
    him pencil in ten years to learn the lingo.

    Heidegger says that Man is Being's poem, I think
    that is your point, and it is a good one. Not sure
    what think out of youself can mean. SOM is a kind
    of alienation from Being, phenomenology kind
    of says experience=reality, so stop trying to divide experience
    and call only part of it reality, Pirsig says something similar,
    and if experience is reality, human being is inseparable from
    Being, want to find Being, look under your nose, it's so close you
    can't see it, it is a zero distance away, therefore you cannot separate into
    subject-object.

    DM
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Paul Turner" <paulj.turner@ntlworld.com>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:38 PM
    Subject: RE: MD Dealing with S/O pt 1

    > Hi David
    >
    > You said:
    > You can do a lot of thinking without assuming dualism
    > see Heidegger's collected works!
    >
    > Paul:
    > Agreed, but my assertion is that dualistic thinking cannot change
    > itself, the change comes from outside of thought, from the source of
    > thought, from non-dualistic experience. It requires more than thought,
    > or in some methods, the absence of it!
    >
    > I haven't read any Heidegger, has he demonstrated how you can actively
    > think yourself out of yourself? If so, there are plenty of Zen Buddhists
    > who have been messing around with unnecessary methods for a few
    > centuries!
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    > Paul
    >
    >
    >
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