Re: Sheldrake (MD economics of want and greed 4)

From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Mon Sep 08 2003 - 17:44:06 BST

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    Hi Andy

    Maybe I opened the wrong email to do the reply,
    I certainly intended those comments in response
    to Jonathan -apologies for the confusion. Otherwise
    that was incoherent even by my standards.

    Regards
    DM
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: <abahn@comcast.net>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 9:43 PM
    Subject: Re: Sheldrake (MD economics of want and greed 4)

    > Hi David,
    >
    > Check the original post. The post you made to the list were in
    > response to my earlier post not jonathans. I might be confused (but not
    that
    > confused), but it appeared that way to me. In fact, I am quite sure.
    > Absolutely sure.
    >
    > Not concerned (with you taking yourself too seriously) really, I was just
    making
    > an observation.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Andy
    >
    >
    > > Hi Andy
    > >
    > > You seem to have picked up something I said in reply
    > > to Jonathan, no wonder you ask where it came from.
    > >
    > > Can I do serious, maybe, but I have mainly been feeling playful so far.
    But
    > > I do talk a lot. And I very much enjoy
    > > a large sweeping discussion. Thanks for the concern
    > > but I am quite laid back thanks.
    > >
    > > DM
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: <abahn@comcast.net>
    > > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    > > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 5:12 PM
    > > Subject: Re: Sheldrake (MD economics of want and greed 4)
    > >
    > >
    > > > Hi David,
    > > >
    > > > You said: "Sorry but this seems to me naive in turn. Utility is an
    > > abstract
    > > > term. Our society is structured to deliver share holder value -not so
    > > abstract.
    > > > Our societies are spectacularly unequal. Therefore they may well be
    > > delivering
    > > > increased wealth to a minority at the expense of the majority. Also
    what
    > > is
    > > > being delivered may be of value to the present generation but
    neglecting
    > > the
    > > > generations who are yet to own any shares in biotech companies. Hence,
    > > > eco-disaster is a possibility."
    > > >
    > > > Andy: You have said a lot here that I don't disagree with at all, but
    it
    > > > completely misses the point. I mean COMPLETELY. I was only
    addressing
    > > the
    > > > suggestion I think you made that the current paradigm in
    biology--mainly,
    > > > neo-Darwinism--is somehow lead by funding. I am trying not to laugh,
    > > because I
    > > > can tell you take yourself VERY seriously. But where did the above
    come
    > > from?
    > > > What neurons were firing to produce that?
    > > >
    > > > You also said: "But equally, I am not prepared to just accept without
    > > argument
    > > > whatever are the current dominant values or views, that would be a
    recipe
    > > for
    > > > static stagnation."
    > > >
    > > > Andy: And you shouldn't. I am not asking you to. All I am asking is
    why
    > > should
    > > > anyone in the biological community take you seriosly? What are you
    really
    > > > offering them. ABSOLUTELY, nothing.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks,
    > > > Andy
    > > >
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