Re: MD The Simpleminds at work

From: Valuemetaphysics@aol.com
Date: Thu Sep 18 2003 - 03:51:46 BST

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    Hello GJ,
    May i have a go?

    For example:
    There are some subjects that made me wonder, where I need your opinions.

    1. I am a school teacher (children from 4 to 13) - I often get the urge to
    teach them the MoQ. Would it be wise? How would you do it?

    Yes. Tell them there are 4 kinds of Good: Inorganic. (show them a beautiful
    rock formation) Organic. (show them a beautiful tree) Social (explain
    University institutions) Intellectual (show them the law of conservation). Above all,
    indicate the Tao (DQ)

    2. I regularly find myself trying to explain the moq to others (friends
    during beer) How do you do it? What do you tell them?

    Tell them they already understand, but need to concentrate a little more.
    Indicate the Tao in all activity.

    3. I have great troubles giving grades to creative works the children make.
    Can the MoQ be a help allthough pirsig wouldn't allow it? If yes? Enlighten
    me?

    Experience cannot be graded in this way. Allow students to enjoy experience.

    4. Do some of you try to implement the MoQ into psychology (or ectually the
    other way around that is)?

    I personally would not know what to say here. In my view, psychology from an
    MoQ perspective is a matter of harmony and balance.

    5. If philosophy is of high intellectual quality, why get children?

    That depends upon how individuals are dominated by the four value systems.

    6. Is a religion a social pattern of values? And if these patterns are not
    of high quality anymore in a culture, why teach children that religion
    anyway?

    Religion is both social and Dynamic Quality. From a social perspective,
    religion may teach social value. From a Dynamic perspective, religion is a
    patterned response to unpatterned experience.

    7. Why is a policeman allowed to hit a hooligan, but is a teacher not
    allowed to hit a kid that the teacher can't reach intellectually or social?
    And why was it allowed in the old days? What should a teacher do, if he
    doesn't want to use this biological jungle-language?

    The MoQ says that social values are between intellectual and biological
    values. It is imperative that social unity is maintained for the suppression of
    biological value and in support of intellectual values.
    A student who is not open to intellectual patterns is not a student.

    8. Would it change our feelings about the whole MoQ if Pirsig appeared to be
    an ugly child-molesting sigar smoking bold woman? (like one of Roald Dahls
    witches)

    No.

    8. When did the intellecual level started - The old greek - the
    renaissance - the sixties ?

    Too long ago to be a problem.

    10. Is it moral to have an opinion about a President without living in his
    country? (looking at Culture A using the values of Culture B)

    Yes. Four value systems imply four ways to view a president.

    11. Can I tell you all Gandi was a great guy using my $2000,- computer?

    Not sure what you mean?

    Looking forward to your replies,

    GJ

    OK. Mark

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