Re: MD What is a person?

From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sat Oct 11 2003 - 19:39:46 BST

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    Hi

    This is why I think I want to say I am
    a critical realist rather than an anti-realist.
    In some way we can ask nature to join
    in our conversations, we ask nature questions
    and we get a kind of answer. This is where I depart
    from the pragmatists. Although I want to keep all their
    critical scrutiny.

    Regards
    David M
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Patrick van den Berg" <cirandar@yahoo.com>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 11:19 PM
    Subject: Re: MD What is a person?

    >
    > --- David MOREY <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
    > > Hi
    > >
    > > Small thought on language.
    > > Is experience, visual experience a form of language?
    > > I take Pirsig's idea that to experience something
    > > it has to show up to you, you have to value it, we don't
    > > notice what we don't value. Loads of information coming
    > > towards your senses is ignored. Also if you don't
    > > differentiate between things then you have no things.
    > > You have to draw a line between sky and earth to experience
    > > sky as opposed to earth. All the Derrida deconstruction stuff,
    > > and the key role of 'differance' -to differentiate and defer-
    > > seems to apply to our capacity to sense, therefore are the
    > > experiences of our perceptions a form of language?
    >
    > Okay, interesting. Yes, in the sense that our brains caricature reality,
    > just like language in words does. It cuts reality up in pieces. We don't
    > see a caleidoscope of colors, we see a computer, a desk, and a glass of
    > wine (at least I do ;-)). Just like a language is not a bunch of random
    > letters, but ordered in parts (words).
    > But on the other hand, vice versa, the language of words is perception
    > as well. We don't think in pure syntactical terms. We use our
    > imagination (a spinn-off from pure perception) when we hear "table" or
    > "chair" (to use the dull examples many philosophers always choose ;-)).
    > And if intonation, accent, nonverbal gestures and such are a part of
    > language, then we can sense meaningful nuances in talking to people that
    > stretches beyond words toward the realm of perception and emotion etc.
    >
    > Now I have to stop before the wine sinks in too much :-)
    >
    > Greetings, Patrick.
    >
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