From: abahn@comcast.net
Date: Tue Nov 04 2003 - 20:24:29 GMT
Hi Matt (Hi DMB),
Yes I did ignore this specific specific criticism of Rorty by DMB (Rorty's truth is an adjective, Pirsigs is a noun). Shame on me! DMB, I apologize. As a feeble excuse all I can say is I never really made much of this distinction made by Pirsig at the end of Lila. It just didn't create this earth-shatering new perspective, that it seemed Pirsig had intended for it. It felt like he just wanted to end the book, somehow and sum it all up quickly so he could get back to his life and out of the spotlight. But this summing up felt pretty empty to me. I don't blame Pirsig for this. He isn't the first author whose work I had admired despite feeling like their work was somehow left incomplete. In fact, most, if not all, authors leave me with that feeling. Perhaps, what you (Matt) say about treating morality and nouns as truth leads us to believe they should be objects of inquiry was the source of my hesitation towards grasping onto this idea. If this is the specific source of DMB's criticism, than this is
also good to know. So, if we wish for first things first, we could also begin here.
To DMB: Rorty rejects a correspondance theory of truth (roughly [very roughly] translating he rejects SOM, using Pirsig's vocabulary), as have some other philosophers before him (Dewey, Wittgenstein, Heidegger). Matt has argued (keeping in mind his caveat)that treating truth as a noun leads to a correspondance theory of truth. Is this a contradiction? If not, where does this leave Rorty and Pirsig? How does this leave Rorty completely out of the discussion, i.e. on Pirsig, quality, values, morality, truth and the MOQ (which is what we are discussing here at this site)?
Or, we can go from the metaphysics standpoint, following Anthony's remarks in his post today (PIRSIG'S NEW WEBSITE 11/04/2003),
Andy
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