Re: MD What makes an idea dangerous?

From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Nov 13 2003 - 18:41:21 GMT

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    Hi Platt,

    >So if you were there and saw Galileo in a red robe and slippers and
    >smelled the body odor of the clergy, would you say you were wrong if
    >another person there said Galileo was in a blue robe and slippers and
    >the clergy smelled like lilac blossoms? If three people said so? A
    >hundred people? You're familiar with the story of the "Emperor's New
    >Clothes" aren't you?

    I would say at first that the hundred people were wrong, just like the
    Emperor would say that everyone was wrong after they all said he wasn't
    wearing any clothes. But everyone else would say I was remembering it
    wrong, or I had been halucinating, so maybe I would accept that I must be
    wrong, or I would try to convince them that they were wrong if I thought I
    had evidence or a plausible explanation as to how they coud be misled. What
    would you believe? What I said I saw or what the hundred people said they
    saw? Do you believe people who have had direct experience of alien
    abductions?

    >Are you sure that your statement that "Even two people sometimes
    >disagree about what they experienced" is true. How do you know?

    I've experienced people disagreeing about what they experienced. Like that
    homerun that hit the foul pole, everyone seemed to know the truth of what
    they experienced, but they disagreed. To this day it hasn't been
    established conclusively. And almost everyone agrees that it is true that
    people sometimes disagree about what is true, which is why we would all
    probably agree it is true (not because of my experience alone).

    I guess my point is that while direct experience is believed by the person
    experiencing it, it isn't necesarilly accepted by other people as the truth,
    and most things that we think of as true we didn't directly experience
    ourselves, like the galileo scene. Of course, everything was experienced by
    someone, and the rest of us just experience them telling their story and
    believe them or not.

    Johnny

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