Re: MD Two theories of truth

From: MATTHEW PAUL KUNDERT (mpkundert@students.wisc.edu)
Date: Sun Nov 16 2003 - 23:32:45 GMT

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    Johnny,

    Johnny said:
    I agree that there is good stuff and bad stuff, and no one respects bad stuff. Murder isn't as strong a pattern as not-murdering,and so respect would go to not murdering. But even so I think that murder needs to be respected, not in a "that was a good thing" type of way, but in a "that's a significant thing , and it often happens when x and y and z factor in together". So that's why we should avoid factors x and y and z getting together, because it tends to cause murder. So on the whole, we have to respect that Morality causes murder in some rare circumstances, and not just expect people to avoid it in those circumstances. We have to care about circumstances. (And I would rather have a world with murder than a world of such oppression that no one could murder anyone.)

    Matt:
    Okay, given all this agreement, my point is that people already do or do not respect the good stuff and the bad stuff (in the appropriate ways), and saying that they should respect Morality-as-such doesn't really add anything. Its the details that count, not the broad prostrations. Maybe a useful slogan for getting people to think that the murders they see happen are significant, but I think saying "respect Morality-as-such" resonates much less than "respect the wrongness of murder".

    Matt

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