Re: MD matt said scott said

From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Fri Nov 21 2003 - 19:18:46 GMT

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    Scott

    Can't remember what I meant either,
    bit of a typo, but can we trace a history
    of alienation and dis-alienation in cosmology
    and human cultural history? Are you aware of
    Roy Bhaskar's book on East/West philosophy?
    He is certainly takes a look at knowledge from
    in the light of the problems of experimental closed
    and real open systems which is what DQ/SQ is all about.

    regards
    David M
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Scott R" <jse885@spinn.net>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 2:56 AM
    Subject: Re: MD matt said scott said

    > David M,
    >
    >
    > > Scott:Anyway, the L of CI can be used when the methodology you describe
    > > fails. It
    > > fails when the topic for which one seeks an explanation cannot escape
    > > contradiction. An example is our awareness of things changing. To be
    aware
    > > of a thing changing we must remain the same before and after the change
    > (we
    > > are continuous). But in becoming aware of a thing we are changing. To be
    > > continuous we must not be continuous. To be aware of ourselves changing,
    > we
    > > must not be changing.
    > >
    > > DM: So would I be right to say that we need to somehow understand how a
    > > unity
    > > or a One becomes a two or a many, and this has to be some sort of
    process
    > of
    > > self-alienation, only then can there be DQ at one pole and SQ at
    another,
    > > and also
    > > this is how we get to subject-object and therefore these poles are at a
    > > different level
    > > one?
    >
    > Except that I don't think we can understand it, and the L of CI indicates
    > why. Also, in addition to how the One becomes many, there is the question
    of
    > how the many become one (in awareness).
    >
    > Not sure what you are getting at at the end there: "...and therefore these
    > poles are at a different level one?".
    >
    > - Scott
    >
    >
    >
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