Re: MD The MOQ Perspective on Homosexuality

From: Wim Nusselder (wim.nusselder@antenna.nl)
Date: Fri Dec 19 2003 - 21:30:52 GMT

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    Dear Steve,

    This may be my last posting for some time, as I go on holiday for two weeks
    tomorrow.

    You wrote 16 Dec 2003 20:09:46 -0500:
    'I was surprised that you would so whole-heartedly agree with DMBs claim
    that homosexuality is hardwired through DNA ... I find it hard to believe
    that there is a "pussy-loving" gene or a "dick-fancying" gene.
    ...
    I can somewhat understand why DMB would see sexuality as biologically
    latched since he does not use the same definitions of the levels as we, but
    do you really see human sexuality in all its complexity as a purely
    biological pattern?'

    No, not everything that goes under the name of 'sexuality', nor everything
    that goes under the name of 'homosexuality' can be explained with biological
    patterns of value. Just as at least part of 'sexuality' IS explainable at
    the biological level, so is -I think- at least part of 'homosexuality'. It
    is obviously not the result of one gene, but of the complex interplay of
    genes among themselves AND with circumstances in which people (or animals
    for that matter) find themselves. This interplay permits (statistically) a
    range of outcomes and at the outer fringes of this range (as visualized in a
    Bell curve) homosexuality is a normal outcome.
    Genes contributing to that outcome may be genes encoding for a stronger
    sex-drive than usual and a circumstance enabling it may be more exposure to
    people of the same sex than to people of the other sex. Other combinations
    of genes and circumstances may have a comparable outcome.

    Among humans part of these circumstances are shaped by social patterns of
    value (but from a biological point of view only a small part; biological
    patterns are not 'aware' of social patterns of value). Even without social
    patterns of value (i.e. among animals without social copying of behaviour
    that maintains 'cultures') circumstances may occur that statistically
    produce with certain combinations of genes a limited percentage of
    homosexual individuals (and/or individuals that some of the time exhibit
    homosexual behaviour).

    With friendly greetings,

    Wim

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