From: Dan Glover (daneglover@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Jan 03 2004 - 18:41:48 GMT
Hello everyone
>From: <ant.mcwatt@ntlworld.com>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>Subject: MD intellectual level
>Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:42:00 +0000
>
>Re: The intellectual level
>
>Bo said:
>
>We know what philosophers Pirsig refers to in his work and (your)
>Whitehead, Bergson, Heidegger are not among them. And if existentialism can
>be said to be a parallel or forerunner for the MOQ ...maybe?
>
>Matt said:
>
>Pirsig does refer flatteringly to Whitehead in his reference to Whitehead's
>"dim apprehension" and I thought Pirsig referenced Bergson once (possibly
>in his line-up of philosophers that other people said he sounded like).
>
>Ant:
>
>I also thought Pirsig made a direct reference to Bergson but it isn’t in
>ZMM, SODV or LILA.
Hi Matt and Anthony
Robert Pirsig mentions Bergson in Lila's Child, note #126:
"I think this conclusion undermines the MOQ, although that is obviously not
Platt’s
intention. It is like saying that science is really a form of religion.
There is some truth to
that, but it has the effect dismissing science as really not very important.
The MOQ is in
opposition to subject-object metaphysics. To say that it is a part of that
system which it
opposes sounds like a dismissal. I have read that the MOQ is the same as
Plato, Aristotle,
Plotinus, Hegel, James, Peirce, Nieztsche, Bergson, and many others even
though these
people are not held to be saying the same as each other. This kind of
comparison is what I
have meant by the term, “philosophology.” It is done by people who are not
seeking to
understand what is written but only to classify it so that they don’t have
to see it as any
thing new. God knows, the MOQ has never had two better friends than Bo and
Platt, so
this is no criticism of their otherwise brilliant thinking. It’s just that I
see a lowering of
the quality of the MOQ itself if you follow this path of subordinating it to
that which it
opposes."
Dan
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