Re: MD Rorty

From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Wed Jan 07 2004 - 18:45:21 GMT

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    Hi Scott

    Well what you say makes sense to me,
    but sometimes when I've written something
    rather good I step back and thing: where did
    that come from, that's a whole lot sharper than I am,
    I have also experienced complex visual jokes when dreaming that
    have really taken me by surprise and have made me laugh
    a lot, where do they come from, they seem to involve a
    cunning intelligence. In as far as there is other intelligence
    that we do recognise -i.e.other people- maybe the borders
    between self and other is less clear in certain states.
    Also we do experience what we have laid down in memory
    as 'mechanistic' and alienated, e.g. one can drive a car pretty
    unconsciously, a bit like someone else is driving it. I think self
    identity feels strong with DQ activity, when stuff moves towards
    SQ it moves towards separation, is this not how the whole cosmos
    operates, from the one to the many, from DQ to separate SQ patterns
    with DQ becoming fragmented into different 'selves'?

    regards
    David M

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Scott R" <jse885@spinn.net>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:01 AM
    Subject: Re: MD Rorty

    > David M,
    >
    >
    > > Scott [prev]:Instead it should be seen as the conscious arena of DQ/SQ
    > tension
    > > within
    > > the human being. After all, it is by means of the intellect that we
    > analyze,
    > > critique and *evaluate* all other static patterns, and thus create new
    > ones.
    > >
    > > DM: Hi Scott, I agree with your attack on idea of 'only abstract' but is
    > the
    > > above more than just a matter of the distinction between DQ active
    > > intelligence
    > > and the SQ products it creates?
    >
    > I'm not sure what more or less it needs to be. The issue is whether one
    > considers oneself as only SQ or as DQ/SQ, and I am holding forth for the
    > latter. I am, in my creative intellectual moments, DQ, producing SQ. As is
    > everybody, of course. I don't need to stop thinking to experience DQ. I
    > experience it when I am thinking. But, since I, like most everybody, am
    > still an immature thinker, that DQ experience is awfully dim. Thinking
    needs
    > to be purified (through detachment), not transcended.
    >
    > If one says that this DQ I am ascribing to myself is actually some other
    > "active intelligence", then I am an automaton that that active
    intelligence,
    > aka God, has cruelly given the illusion of being free. One can't prove
    that
    > isn't the case, but it doesn't feel like that, and thinking it is is as
    > impossible as solipsism.
    >
    > - Scott
    >
    >
    >
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