RE: MD: MOQ Where's the matter gone?

From: Paul Turner (paulj.turner@ntlworld.com)
Date: Sat Jan 17 2004 - 10:56:47 GMT

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    Hello Bo, JoVo, Matt

    JoVo quoted Pirsig:
    This is not just an arbitrary social convention that should apply to
    some doctors but not to all doctors, or to some cultures but not all
    cultures. It's true for all people at all times, now and forever, a
    moral pattern of reality as real as H2O. We're at last dealing with
    morals on the basis of reason. We can now deduce codes based on
    evolution that analyze moral arguments with greater precision than
    before."

    Paul:
    Ah, of course, Matt's favourite "anti-pragmatist" statement. Is this
    what you are referring to, Bo? Isn't he just saying that human beings
    are more highly evolved organisms than germs, always will be, and no
    matter which culture you live in? He is demonstrating his belief that
    science (in this case, the theory of cosmological evolution) can support
    ethics. He does this by taking an explicitly "obvious" case and showing
    that it is obvious because of the gulf between the levels of evolution.
    When the distance between patterns, in evolutionary terms, is shorter he
    says it is not as clear but that the MOQ can help analysis of moral
    issues nonetheless.

    I don't think he is saying anything about metaphysics, his or anyone
    else's, being the absolute, timeless truth.

    Is there another statement you have in mind?

    Paul

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