From: Paul Turner (paulj.turner@ntlworld.com)
Date: Mon Jan 26 2004 - 13:44:12 GMT
Hello Platt
Platt said:
A question still remains unanswered, however. What level "perceives"
that the intellectual level contains "many sets" of intellectual
patterns of varying quality? An eye cannot see itself.
Paul:
If you are referring to the analogy Pirsig makes in his letter to me, he
was comparing the ability of intellect to *define itself* to an eye
trying to *directly* see itself.
To try and answer your question though, I don't think it is that any
level of patterns perceives quality, but that value perception creates
patterns. Your question reminds me of something in Lila's Child:
Bo writes, "If the world is composed of values, then who is doing the
valuing? No one in the Subject/Object sense, but to a human being who
straddles all Quality levels, only one is highlighted at a time. Bodily
sensations, needs, or urges (instincts) bring focus to the biological
level. Impulses from the social "body" we identify with bring focus to
that value plane. In our culture, the focus dwells mostly on the
intellect."[p.222] Pirsig notes, "This is a subtle slip back into
subject-object thinking. Values have been converted to a kind of object
in this sentence, and then the question is asked, "If values are an
object, then where is the subject?" The answer is found in the MOQ
sentence, "It is not Lila who has values, it is values that have Lila."
Both the subject and the object are patterns of value."[p.250]
Regards
Paul
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