From: MATTHEW PAUL KUNDERT (mpkundert@students.wisc.edu)
Date: Thu Mar 11 2004 - 23:00:51 GMT
David,
David said:
If we can really mean this, does it not get us beyond some of the post-modern falling into anti-realist fantasy? As I said before, what we find depends on the question (making) but there is still an answer (finding) but never any isolated finding or making. I would like to propose a Morey-Matt uncertainty principle that you can never isolate making from finding or finding from making.
Matt:
It exactly does move us beyond antirealism, or more specifically, it moves us beyond realism and antirealism (as Aurthur Fine put it) and relativism and objectivism (as Richard Bernstein put it). The impossibility of isolating finding from making is exactly the point Davidson has been making for some years, particularly with his notion of person-community-world triangulation.
David said:
I want my philosophy to have something to say about these things but I just have more of a hang-things-together urge then you never-mind-its-private kind of folk, but I can put up with your shyness in a pluralistic spirit.
Matt:
I still think you're grabbing Rorty's political philosophy by the wrong handle. In fact, I'm calling it a "political philosophy" on purpose to highlight this. Its not that people can't get philosophy to do public things or get it to aid politics. Rorty highlights Dewey and Habermas as being good at this, and I would suggest that Rorty is, too. The conceptual groundwork Rorty's working with, though, says that you don't _have_ to do philosophy if you don't want to, why we call it a good handmaiden as opposed to a master. Your response to my "shyness" is exactly the right pluralistic spirit which is the only intended effect of Rorty's suggestions. You want to put your "hang-things-together urge" to political use, as Habermas does, but you'll put up with others who don't because you don't think philosophy has priority over politics. Just the opposite as you suggest earlier (which you see my commensurate thoughts in the Idealist post).
As for my "shyness," I actually haven't really felt a calling either way. As far as I can tell, as of yet I've put my philosophical talents to both uses. My thoughts are that I pretty much write about whatever I feel like writing at the time. If its private and idiosyncratic, fine, if its publically galvanizing, great.
Matt
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