From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Mon Apr 05 2004 - 16:46:37 BST
DMB, David M, Matt K,
> David M said:
> I also suspect that part of the problem that allows
> fundamentalism is the withdrawal from the conversation
> of meaning that secularism represents. The urgent thing for
> me is to have a single conversation that can somehow
> integrate politics, religion, science, education. The post-modernist
> aversion to this leave us with a social crisis.
> dmb says:
> I think the "withdrawl from the conversation of meaning that secularism
> represents" is one of the main problems with the "disenchantment of the
> world" And that is also why I find myself so disenchanted with the kind of
> postmodernism that Matt has presented. Its part of that same problem, a
> cure that is worse than the disease. It doesn't exactly fail to recognize
> the loss of meaning, but it fails to recognize the seriousness of the
> problem and instead offers up reassurances that we don't need meaning and
> could never have it anyway because there is no such thing. It breaks my
> heart that anyone finds value in a thing so cold and empty as that.
I agree. Our materialist worldview focuses so much on means (technology)
that it often loses sight of meanings (beauty). The cautionary metaphor I
try to keep in mind is simply, "Don't mistake the pump for the water."
Platt
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