Re: MD quality religion (Christianity)

From: Wim Nusselder (wim.nusselder@antenna.nl)
Date: Tue May 18 2004 - 07:28:46 BST

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    Dear Platt,

    You wrote 15 May 2004 12:04:31 -0400:
    'What do you think the chances are that those who call themselves spiritual
    take the bible literally? I would say none. Of the 50 percent of Americans
    who call themselves religious, only the fundamentalist sects take the bible
    literally and they are definitely in the minority. So will "proof" may too
    strong, such statistics cast extreme doubt on your 59 percent claim.'

    May I remind you that 59% American believers in literal truth of Revelations
    was not MY claim, but one I would prefer NOT to believe? Also that my
    concern is not about taking literally information that has no practical
    consequences now but only symbolic ones (like the resurrection of a dead
    human some 1972 years ago). I am concerned about people applauding and
    pushing for a foreign policy that destabilizing effects elsewhere for
    irrational reasons (i.e. not global public interest of even national
    self-interest).
    'Only' 50% of Americans calling themselves religious does cast doubt on the
    59% claim, but doesn't silence my concern. Do you agree that the strength of
    the 'manifest destiny' idea in your culture and the popularity of 'end time'
    thinking even among non-fundamentalists (as suggested by David B. 12 May
    2004 21:44:35 -0600 and 15 May 2004 20:10:37 -0600) makes my concern more
    serious?

    You continued:
    'Do you have any other statistics about religion either of the Netherlands
    or Europe? According to the last American census, the breakdown of religious
    affiliation by percentage is: Protestant 53, Catholic 28, Jewish 2, Other 8
    and None 9. What are the comparable percentages in Europe?'

    This census at least shows that 'being religious' can mean different things.
    This would mean that 91% of the Americans is religious...
    According to a graph shown in the Enlargement issue of my newspaper (1 May,
    when the European Union grew from 15 to 25 member states) both the total
    percentages for religious affiliation and their composition differ wildly
    among these 25 countries: from some 30% religious affiliation in Czechia to
    nearly 100% in Greece, Spain, Cyprus, Hungary and Malta. In 17 out of the 25
    countries one church clearly dominates (13 times the Roman Catholic one), in
    others like Germany, Great Britain, the Netherlands and Latvia there is much
    more diversity.
    I found a website for you where you can look up and find references to a lot
    of comparable (and contradictory) statistics on religion worldwide:
    http://religionstatistics.bravehost.com/statofrel1.htm . I haven't studied
    it yet for relevance for my concern.

    I don't know the 'Left Behind' series. That information was provided by
    David B.. Maybe he can comment on your statement that it doesn't support the
    59% claim and my doubt whether it is relevant for my concern.

    With friendly greetings,

    Wim

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