From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Sun May 23 2004 - 16:09:33 BST
Hi all,
On 23 May 2004 at 9:55, Platt Holden wrote:
MSH writes:
> Here, it might be useful to reiterate Platt's understanding of
> Terrorism: Deliberate attacks against defenseless civilian
> populations in an attempt to achieve political ends, unless such
> attacks are carried out by the US or any of its allies.
Wrong (as usual). Platt's understanding of terrorism is the same as
Pirsig's:
"The idea that biological crimes can be ended by intellect alone,
that you can talk crime to death, doesn't work. Intellectual patterns
cannot directly control biological patterns. Only social patterns can
control biological patterns, and the instrument of conversation
between society and biology is not words. The instrument of
conversation between society and biology has always been a policeman
or a soldier and his gun." (Lila, 24)
msh says:
This little quote is Platt's justification for his kill-em-all-like-
germs interpretation of the MOQ. Since this quote was thoroughly
analyzed in context, and Platt's interpretation dismantled, in our
exchanges earlier this month, it would be a waste of time to do it
again here. It's in the archives, or will be when my last response
is online.
ph said:
You can only defeat criminals (invaders and terrorists) by meeting
them on their own terms. MSH, DMB and others who share their radical
left views would rather sit down and chit-chat over a couple of beers
with Bin Laden like Chamberlain tried with Hitler and Roosevelt with
Stalin. The folly of such appeasement, and the truth of Pirsig's
insight, has been borne out by history.
msh says:
Nonsense, of course. I don't even like beer. As we've seen, Platt's
understanding of Pirsig's truth approaches zero, at least insofar as
the MOQ is applied to political reality.
The question remains: Why is killing 3000 civilians in NYC an act
of terror, while killing 10000 civilians in Iraq is not? Try to
answer, without calling Rush Limbaugh please.
Best to all,
MarkH
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