From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Mon May 24 2004 - 15:04:23 BST
Hi MSH:
> msh says:
> CNN? They were among the biggest cheerleaders for the war in Iraq,
> only slightly less enthusiastic than Fox News.
Among us conservatives CNN is affectionately known as the Communist News
Network.
> Commercial media, I'm afraid, is useless for any kind of
> serious analysis of events.
On this we agree. The latest Pew Survey, published yesterday, found that
liberals make a disproportionate share of newsroom workers in print, TV and
radio. 34% identified themselves as liberal compared to 7% conservative. As
for non-commercial media being a more reliable source, we've seen how
outrageously the news was distorted by the BBC.
> As for Saddam, as I mentioned in detail earlier, there were people in
> Iraq trying to remove him from power and begin democratization a
> decade prior to the war. If these folks had been given even a little
> help from the US, such as stopping the murderous sanctions against
> Iraqi citizens, they may very well have succeeded.
Didn't the U.N. impose the sanctions? Didn't the U.N. also create a food for
oil program which is now being investigated because of suspected corruption
by U.N. officials? Any other suggestions as to how the U.S. might have
"helped" the Iraq people stage a successful revolution against Saddam? (Make
me wonder if Castro's Cuba is your model for destroying a corrupt society
from within.)
> No, the object
> wasn't removing Saddam, the object was, and continues to be, to
> occupy Iraq.
The object is to establish a democracy in the Middle East to blunt radical
Islam's quest for the world domination, and to demonstrate that terrorism
doesn't pay, at least as far as the U.S. and Britain are concerned (unlike
Spain who capitulated to terrorism in a heartbeat.)
I think Pirsig would say the Iraq war is a moral war for similar reasons he
gives for saying the Civil War was a moral war. Intellectual values of
freedom take precedence over totalitarian social values. Do you think it's
better (more moral) that the Iraq people live in a Western style democracy
than under Saddam's or Bin Laden's rule?
Best,
Platt
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