Re: MD MOQ and The Moral Evolution of Society.

From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sat May 29 2004 - 12:19:31 BST

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    Hi

    I think the thing Platt needs to grasp is that DQ
    can emerge in a more complex way at higher levels.
    The point of static organisations like government
    is that they enable us to maintain the social
    and intellectual levels above the biological. At least
    this is their evolutionary purpose. Clearly, they fail to live
    fully up to their purpose in many ways. But I would like to suggest
    that we should value the idea of making the intellectual level accessable
    to everyone. I see that as making food, shelter, and access to books and
    the internet very high goals for everyoone in the world. I also
    suggest that our current practices and values have improved these things
    but increasingly only support greater inequality and conflict and we are
    in great need of finding a better form of quality at a social level, better
    supporting the intellectual and biological levels. Any thoughts?

    regards
    David M

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Mark Steven Heyman" <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 10:13 PM
    Subject: Re: MD MOQ and The Moral Evolution of Society.

    > On 27 May 2004 at 15:43, Platt Holden wrote:
    >
    > Happy to add some institutions that meet MSH's criteria as immoral:
    >
    > Income taxes
    > Social Security
    > Medicare
    > Welfare
    > Government regulations
    > Fiat money
    >
    >
    > Hi Platt,
    > Don't you want to tell us why these fit my description of immoral
    > institution, which, BTW, is just an approximation awaiting group
    > discussion?
    >
    > The first four I think will come down to your belief that individual
    > freedom means freedom for a person to make as much money as possible,
    > no matter how, and regardless of the effect on the freedom of others
    > and on society as a whole, which, if the effect on others is
    > negative, would fail the definition as it now stands.
    >
    > "Government regulations" is to broad to be useful, and I don't know
    > what "Fiat money" means. I think the group would appreciate it if
    > you'd develop and support your ideas, rather than just obstruct what
    > I am hoping will be a constructive discussion.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > msh
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