From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Jun 04 2004 - 16:26:05 BST
Platt:
>Glad to see Chomsky's eloquent justification for invading Iraq.
>
>Platt
Good one, Platt! I hadn't thought about that when I read that quote, but
you're absolutely right, it does advocate dismantling Saddam's illegitimate
authority, doesn't it? What else could he mean but send in the troops?
What I had been thinking, incidentally, was how uselessly vague, empty and
dangerous a statement like that was, seeing as it offers no way of
"identifying" or "justifying" or "dismantling", but only advocates headlong
destruction of whatever someone doesn't like in whatever way anyone has
enough power to accomplish.
And of course I still object to the idea that authority, or morality in
general, needs any justification. If other patterns come along that are
stronger, it will change. But there's no need to force the issue, no need
to hate morality or patterns repeating. That's hating value, and that's not
good.
Johnny
>MSH writes:
>
> > I wouldn't mind swinging this thread back toward the MOQ. Anthony's
> > original post (seems like forever ago) was made because he had just
> > heard a Chomsky lecture and thought he caught the aroma of the
> > Metaphysics of Quality in the man's thinking.
> >
> > I think so too. Here's a Chomsky quote about freedom, from an
> > interview conducted in May 1995 by Kevin Doyle. It sounds kinda
> > MOQish to me:
> >
> > "I think it only makes sense to seek out and identify structures of
> > authority, hierarchy, and domination in every aspect of life, and to
> > challenge them; unless a justification for them can be given, they
> > are illegitimate, and should be dismantled, to increase the scope of
> > human freedom. That includes political power, ownership and
> > management, relations among men and women, parents and children, our
> > control over the fate of future generations (the basic moral
> > imperative behind the environmental movement, in my view), and much
> > else. Naturally this means a challenge to the huge institutions of
> > coercion and control: the state, the unaccountable private tyrannies
> > that control most of the domestic and international economy,
> > and so on."
> >
> > Thoughts? Comments? Or, rather, thoughtful comments?
>
>Glad to see Chomsky's eloquent justification for invading Iraq.
>
>Platt
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