From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Wed Jun 16 2004 - 04:20:06 BST
Hi Johnny,
Oops, on second thought, I DO need to say something about the ol'
FREE WILL and DETERMINISM schism.
Although it may be true that we have no free will, NO ONE believes
it, not even you. We can debate this, if you like. Or you may
choose not to.
Best,
Mark (msh)
-- InfoPro Consulting - The Professional Information Processors Custom Software Solutions for Windows, PDAs, and the Web Since 1983 Web Site: http://www.infoproconsulting.com "Thought is only a flash between two long nights, but this flash is everything." -- Henri Poincare' On 15 Jun 2004 at 23:42, johnny moral wrote: >msh says: >You can't choose the reactions. Agreed. But you can choose ignorance >over understanding by refusing to look. This is all I'm saying. Is someone still a little sore that someone else isn't reading Chomsky's "Deterring Democracy"? ;-) hey, how about "Manufacturing Consent", have you read that one? That one I really like for what it says, indirectly, about free will, which happens to be what we were talking about. And the more we promote this idea of "free will" the more we play into the hands of the manufacturers of consent. The only way to protect ourselves, and other people, from brainwashing and manufactured consent, is to recognize that there is no such thing as free will, that people's wills, and their consent, are not sovereign, they are fully under the control of the influences surrounding them, ie, Morality. So not only must we be conscious of our place in morality, we should be aware of how we impact morality as it will affect other people. We can't live as islands or think that other people live as islands. MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org Mail Archives: Aug '98 - Oct '02 - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/ Nov '02 Onward - http://www.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/summary.html MD Queries - horse@darkstar.uk.net To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at: http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html
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