Re: MD MOQ and Denying the Reality of Human Racial Variation

From: Paul Vogel (nitzke@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Jun 21 2004 - 19:49:24 BST

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    >From: "Platt Holden" <pholden@sc.rr.com>
    >Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    >To: moq_discuss@moq.org, owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
    >Subject: Re: MD MOQ and Human Variation
    >Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 12:58:17 -0400
    >
    >Hi MSH.
    >
    > > My reading of Wilson has uncovered no such assertion. But maybe I've
    > > missed something, and you can provide me a link. If Wilson does indeed
    > > make this claim, I can only say that that would put him so far in the
    > > minority of scientific thought on the issue as to make him almost
    > > disappear. Therefore one's reason for finding him more credible would be
    > > called into question.
    >
    >I don't find Wilson making the claim that one race is inferior to another,
    >just that intelligence is genetically determined. But, maybe I've missed
    >something, too.
    >
    >Anyway, when you brought in Gould as a scientific expert I wanted to bring
    >in Wilson as another expert to show that there are other "scientific"
    >views out there on the larger issue of nature vs. nurture. I see your
    >point that in doing that I slipped off the subject at hand..
    >
    > > But I'm perfectly willing to discuss the topic from a MOQ standpoint,
    >which
    > > is why I started this thread. What are your thoughts on Vogel's re
    >Pirsig
    > > in this thread, and on Anthony's post in response to him in the new
    > > COSMOTHEISM thread?
    >
    >Vogel is desperately grasping at straws that have no validity whatsoever.

    On the contrary, the "social marxist" dogmatism of "Human Equality" is the
    PC-"cult" that has no factual nor any scientific validity, whatsoever.

    >McWatt is exactly right in his response.

    No, McWatt is just exactly "politically-correct" in his knee-jerk response.
    Unfortunately, it just does not accord with the actual scientific facts of
    REALITY.

    Frankly, I don't no why we're
    >even talking about Cosmotheism. We have so many legitimate viewpoints to
    >discuss that we can get riled up about that I for one won't waste time on
    >what is intellectually vacuous.

    It is clear from your own responses and those of the "social marxists" that
    you both
    do lack the actual "intellectual honesty" and "moral courage" or "personal
    integrity"
    that is required to discuss COSMOTHEISM and its WHOLE TRUTHS of REALITY with
    an open and non-dogmatic and presumptive and assumptive mindset and
    political bias.

    I won't waste my time arguing with any such pseudo-intellectual bigots,
    liars, and dogmatists,
    that lack any actual "personal integrity".

    Best regards,
    Paul Vogel
    http://www.cosmotheism.net

    PS--Your own hypocrisy and ad hominem attacks against myself and against my
    religion of COSMOTHEISM, by your falsely calling it a "cult" only proves to
    any objective persons that
    you do not mean what you say, nor say what you mean. In other words, Platt,
    what both
    you and your "social-marxists" detractors both do have in common is only
    that you both do
    lack any actual personal integrity. So be it. :D
    >
    >Best,
    >Platt
    >
    >
    >
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