Re: MD immoral irony?????

From: Dan Glover (daneglover@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Jun 26 2004 - 06:54:09 BST

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    Hello everyone

    >From: gav <gav_gc@yahoo.com.au>
    >Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    >To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    >Subject: Re: MD immoral irony?????
    >Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 07:42:29 +1000 (EST)
    >
    >hey all,
    >
    > > >For the record in no way do I find Cosmotheism
    > > worthwhile, primarily
    > > >because it is intellectually vapid and, in many
    > > cases, meaningless. In
    > > >other words, to borrow a phrase, it's weak-minded.
    > > :-)
    > > >
    > > >By the same token, I cannot intellectually close
    > > the door on
    > > >investigations of racial differences that meet
    > > Pirsig's tests for truth --
    > > >logical consistency, agreement with experience, and
    > > economy of
    > > >explanation. To do so would violate the spirit of
    > > scientific inquiry and
    > > >the MOQ itself.
    >
    > > I think so too.
    >
    >i don't.
    >
    >
    >ye cannae have it both ways me boy. please give me an
    >example of logically consistent, experientially
    >re-inforced, economically explained racism.
    >
    >i agree that there are general tendencies according to
    >nationality or perhaps even race:
    >
    >eg americans are generally loud and talk a lot
    >the english generally have an inferiority complex
    >the japanese are generally very polite.
    >
    >are we not moving ever forward to a global melting
    >pot? what are racial differences anyway? skin colour?
    >genetic differences? cultural differences?
    >please help me see the utility of racist inquiry
    >

    Hi Gav

    One example of racial difference comes up in the use of DNA analysis during
    crime investigations. From what I understand, a researcher can pinpoint race
    by looking at just three sections of DNA. That isn't racism. But it is a
    racial difference. I think you could say the same for doctors working on
    cures for the many diseases which tend to run enthically. They're looking
    for racial differences at the genetic level to better understand what's
    going on.

    According to the MOQ, I think these examples might be considered biological
    level patterns of value. DNA can be seen with a scientific instrument and
    analyzed. When you talk about racism though, you enter into the social
    realm. Ye cannae spot a bigot under a microscope no matter how closely ye
    look. So yes, Gav, I think we really can have it both ways.

    Dan

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