From: Charles Roghair (ctr@pacificpartssales.com)
Date: Sat Jun 26 2004 - 18:55:29 BST
Which are the "inferior races," exactly and by whose standards?
Cosmotheism's? Doesn't a racist, by definition, hold himself as a
member of the one supposed superior race? Am I to understand that
you've met a Japanese person, for example, who holds the Japanese as
inferior to , say, Hispanics- a bigot, in effect, who is prejudice
against his own race? Strikes me as being at the least shoddy racism
and at worst something skirting the perimeter of insanity.
Best regards,
CTR
On Jun 26, 2004, at 7:11 AM, Khoo Hock Aun wrote:
> Hi David
> Yes I have actually, and its amazing how they, not just one, argue
> their
> "inferiority" as the basis for political domination of the other
> "superior" races who all happen to be fellow citizens in the same
> country. An unequalled instance of institutionalised racism if ever
> there
> was one.
> Rgds
> Khoo Hock Aun
>
>
> Quoting David Morey <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk>:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Has anyone ever come across a racist who
>> also admits that they are a member of one of the inferior races?
>>
>> regards
>> David M
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark Steven Heyman" <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com>
>> To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: MD The Final Cut
>>
>>
>>> Hi Dan and Rich,
>>>
>>> There's actually a fourth way to deal with such a person, which is a
>>> combination of Rich's 2 and 3: Argue with him in a
>>> reasoned, respectful manner till you've proved his ideas are racist,
>>> then denounce him and his ideas by calling them what they are.
>>>
>>> This is the method I used, though I can certainly understand Rich's
>>> POV. Still, as Dan has pointed out, my argument was a waste of time
>>> and energy. If you look at his response to my last series of
>>> questions, you'll see that not only has he not budged an iota, but
>> he
>>> feels quite comfortable in suggesting that the separate and not even
>>> equal perspective within his "church" is not at all racist. So...
>>> there ya go.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I'm taking Dan's advice. The guy and his hate seem happy
>>> together, so I'll leave him alone with his hate.
>>>
>>> Best to all,
>>> Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
>>>
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>>> everything." -- Henri Poincare'
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24 Jun 2004 at 12:39, Dan Glover wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone
>>>
>>>> From: Richard Loggins <brloggins@yahoo.com>
>>>> Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>>>> To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>>>> Subject: Re: MD The Final Cut
>>>> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 06:59:36 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>
>>>> - I should explain that there are three approaches to
>>>> a guy like Paul V, 1)ignore him which is a tacit
>>>> condoning of his views, 2)argue with him in a
>>>> reasoned, respectful manner which gives the impression
>>>> that his views are equally respectable or legitamite,
>>>> or 3)denounce him and his ideas by calling him names
>>>> like bigot. I chose the last route because if there
>>>> ever was an appropriate time for ad hominem attacks,
>>>> this is it.
>>>
>>> Hi Rich
>>>
>>> I think I disagree that to ignore someone is a tacit condoning of
>> his
>>> views. By acknowledging someone who is spewing hate you give them a
>>> platform upon which they can climb in order to spew their vile ever
>>> farther. You're not going to change a person's mind when their views
>>> are extreme to begin with so there's no reason to argue with them.
>>> And what possible difference are you going to make by calling them
>>> names? Odds are they've already been called that and worse. Besides,
>>> that's what they want!
>>>
>>> I don't think this subject comes up in ZMM or LILA but during my
>> work
>>> on LILA'S CHILD I got the impression that Robert Pirsig's Subjects,
>>> Objects, Data and Values presentation fell upon deaf ears. I had the
>>> opportunity to ask Mr. Pirsig if he would use a different approach
>> in
>>> the future. He said he thought it best to leave them (his audience)
>>> alone with their paradoxes. I think it's best to leave someone alone
>>> with their hate.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
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