RE: MD (no subject)

From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Jul 09 2004 - 06:48:36 BST

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    Hi Elizabeth,

    I would not define porn as normal sex, or sex at all. "Sex"as an activity
    is short for sexual intercourse, and was coined by DH Lawrence about a
    hundred years ago. The connection to gender, or male/female, sperm/egg,
    should be obvious. That is what sex, or sexual intercourse, means, one sex
    interacting with the other sex. Using the word to describe whatever gets
    someone off just doesn't mean anything. It could describe eating a great
    steak or skydiving or anything. Sex is sexual, it only has meaning if it
    relates to the sexual potential of the two beings, which is only a potential
    if the two sexes are interacting.

    I'm glad you see that women and men might view sex differently, that is very
    important. But I feel that men and women should have the same understanding
    of sex, and both sexes, ie, everyone, should have the same rights and see
    sex the same way. I'm not sure if there needs to be a goal, it is really
    just a natural imputus, a moral drive to marry and become fully human.

    Johnny

    >From: "Elizabeth Graves" < >
    >Reply-To:
    >To:
    >Subject: RE: MD (no subject)
    >Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 23:56:02 -0500
    >
    >ok when porn is defined as normal sex i believe we need a discussion about
    >what defines normal and when sex as self expression is abnormal let me
    >check off the planet now but seriously folks i think gender specific views
    >of sex needs to be discussed. how do women view it versus men what is the
    >motivation what is the goal. gee goal oriented sex now i may indeed be
    >over thinking
    >
    >
    >>From: "Matt poot" < >
    >>Reply-To:
    >>To:
    >>Subject: RE: MD (no subject)
    >>Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 00:40:05 +0000
    >>
    >>Well, I think that it is important to seperate the different attitudes
    >>which can be taken towards sex. It is true that in much of western
    >>(perhaps eastern as well), sex is viewed in an almost mechanical way, much
    >>as you describe. I do however think that there is a definite distinction
    >>to be made between "normal" sex (as found in the pornography industry),
    >>and sex which occurs on a much more spiritual level, such as tantric sex.
    >>Often two people can experience a bond so close, as to feel like one
    >>person, achieved through sex (physically), and through the mind. Is not
    >>the mind the most sensitive erogenous zone?
    >>
    >>Your thoughts?
    >>
    >>
    >>Matt
    >>
    >>
    >>>From:
    >>>Reply-To:
    >>>To:
    >>>Subject: MD (no subject)
    >>>Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:35:17 EDT
    >>>
    >>>To all:
    >>>
    >>> What are your views (if any) on pornography? The industry, the
    >>>concept,
    >>>the media, et cetera. Where does it fall in the MoQ? What kind of Quality
    >>>(or
    >>>lack of) does it possess? From my limited experience I'd equate it to
    >>>that of
    >>>food, in a sense. Before a big meal, especially when you're hungry, you
    >>>need
    >>>it. Then after you're done with it, it's lost it's luster. It's almost
    >>>disgusting.
    >>>
    >>>calvin.
    >>
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