From: ml (mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Sat Jul 10 2004 - 00:06:09 BST
Arlo:
you said:
>Do I think any one person at UC is "evil"? Certainly not.
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Not sure I agree:
In EPA environmental investigations it is typical that there is
a single person or a small group who quietly and very
discretely make a decision to DUMP. (This excludes the
more typical situation of leaks in lines, tanks. or faulty
plumbing.) Typically they try and cover up the details in
a way that shows they are well aware of the immorality
their actions.
So, if it is deliberate, it probably is because of a "bad guy"
or small conspiring group.
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>...how should we feel for the population of Tijuana?
>Or don't they count?
Coke and UC seem to generate an amount of anger in your
posts if I am not mistaken. Where is the greatest Quality?
A) Making UC stop dumping
B) Helping the affected people
C) Making Coke pay more
D) Organize a boycott/call 60 minutes...
I am not mocking here, but when I get PO'd at something
I find doing something better than just being angry...
(Imagine a Tijuana Libre: Coke, Tequile,& Lime thrown
in the face of a Coke CEO)
If you/we recognize their actions as low quality, how can
Coke and UC be brought to understand the same? If the
world is dominated by SOM and only a small population
even knows the term MoQ, much less understands it,
does that imply a duty to push the understanding we have
or is this a more personal set of applications on the level
of individuals?
puzzled by application...
thanks--mel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlo J. Bensinger" <ajb102@psu.edu>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: MD the metaphysics of free-enterprise
> Hi Dan,
>
> You wrote:
> >
> > It's been my experience that most business owners are very responsible
> > people and they care deeply about their fellow human beings and the
> > environment. There are a few who do not and these few tend to overshadow
the
> > good that's done by responsible business owners. Such generalizations
are
> > rarely fair, IMO.
> >
>
> I would like to believe you. Indeed, in the case of small, community
business I
> probably do. And yet the greatest injustices are done by the corporations
that
> can affect a great number. Think Union Carbide just dumped near Tijuana?
Check
> the web for information on how much they dumped in India, so much so that
> birth-defects are still staggeringly high and common. But in a dialogue
where "anything can be
> justified in the pursuit of maximizing profit", there is no way to
criticize UC
> for what they did. In Platt's world, UC made an unquestionable and
perfectly
> legitimate business decision, it disposed of hazardous waste cheaply by
> bypassing American regulations. It earned more money. So therefore it was
good.
> The Tijuanese example, or the others Mark mentions, all perfectly
acceptable
> business practices. They maximized profit and bypassed pesky social
> regulations. Business owners exercised their "individual freedom" to
maximize
> wealth by tapping into (and maintaining) the poverty of certain areas.
Nothing
> can be wrong with that.
>
>
> > invested with him lost their money, and he was left by himself, standing
on
> > a bridge considering whether or not to jump.
> >
> > If a business doesn't earn money it will not be a business long. Period.
And
> > all the good just comes undone.
>
> Many people die without money but feeling good because they "did good" in
their
> lives. If Fuller was ready to find his life not worth living because he
wasn't
> earning money, I feel sorry for him.
>
> But that's interesting. If we are to feel sorry for Fuller, who was going
to end
> his life because he wasn't earning money, >
> Arlo
>
>
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