From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed Jul 14 2004 - 16:12:03 BST
Hi David and Mark,
> > In moq terms, what is love and hate?
> > David M
>Hello David M,
>Perhaps the MOQ would say that Love is high Quality.
>Hate is low Quality.
>That's a starting point.
>We may wish to consider how Love is maintained in ease? I would suggest
>this
>is a matter of high coherence: Freedom from patterns within patterns. A
>delicate and most beautiful balance, and one which has enormous fortitude
>due,
>paradoxically, to it's 'freedom from patterns' aspect.
>Hate is a throwback to early biological patterns and is very low Quality.
>
>There are moments when i feel hatred. I suppose we all influenced by these
>low quality patterns from time to time. Part of learning to maintain one's
>own
>life appears to involve nullifying hatred? A good way of approaching this
>is to
>contemplate 'the self' - the root of much of it. I feel i still have much
>to
>do in this respect (he says baulking on the personal pronoun)!
>
>All the best,
>Mark
I agree with Mark that Love is high quality. I'm not sure about hate being
low quality.
First, high quality to me means that a pattern has a great likelihood of
continuing, there is a strong expectation that the pattern will repeat, the
pattern is highly respected as a pattern. Things like gravity and Tuesday
following Monday are high quality patterns.
So Love is the energy, care and respect that a pattern needs to be repeated,
because not all patterns are so high quality that they just repeat like days
or gravity (though those highest quality patterns also require love, but it
is a love which we give so freely and faithfully that we don't even notice
ourselves loving). Weaker patterns, like a person taking care of a sick
person, sometimes are not followed in specific cases when other patterns
thwart them. The pattern is not as high quality as gravity, the
expectation is strong but it is not something we feel certain about, so we
are aware of the choice, the two possibilities - to carry the pattern
forward through the effort of loving, or to not love and let the pattern be
thwarted. If a pattern is thwarted enough that it becomes expected, then
the general pattern "people help sick people" dies. Note, there are
inverses of patterns that are not patterns themselves but rather the
breakdown of a pattern - killing someone is not a pattern, it is the inverse
of the pattern of not killing people (thou shall not kill - you probably
won't kill.)
So, love means to do what is morally expected of you (and one of the things
morally expected is to strive beyond mere average morality). So, I
disagree with you about love being freedom from patterns, I think love is
much more intrinsic to patterns and is bound to patterns, almost the 'stuff'
of patterns themselves.
Hate could be seen as refusing to love, refusing to do what you should, not
liking morality, and I that sense it is very bad and immoral. But it can
also be a justifiable opinion about something bad, like hating hate in the
first sense, hating things that weaken morality. So I'm not sure about hate
in MoQ terms, I don't put it on the same plane as love, which is an
ontological force somewhat synonymous with DQ and the Holy Ghost.
Johnny
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